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Jordan Nuttall's avatar

Hi Kenneth! I’ve been on here for about 2 weeks, and I’m trying to meet new people.

You share some interesting posts, so I thought I’d drop a comment and introduce myself with a article, I hope that’s okay friend:

https://open.substack.com/pub/jordannuttall/p/the-tartarian-langauge?r=4f55i2&utm_medium=ios

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Kenneth Griffith's avatar

Welcome, Jordan! I have a hypothesis about ancient Tartaria that you may find interesting. There have been a few megalithic structures found in Siberia. I think they date to the Bronze Age when Siberia was much warmer.

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Jordan Nuttall's avatar

Thanks for the reply Kenneth!.

I have thought about that myself before, I’ve got quite a collection of Gazetteers (Geographical dictionary’s) and in them, most locations have coordinates; and a lot of towns and cities labelled Tartary, have such large and beautiful Madrassas and mosques.

Especially in the regions around India and Iran, curiously some also line up with what is Turkmenistan today.

If you haven’t heard of Turkmenistan, google Ashgabat and have a look at it.

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Kenneth Griffith's avatar

So, here's the weird theory. There is a substantial body of evidence that the Early Bronze Age was the same time period as the Ice Age. At the time of the glacial maximum, there were massive ice sheets on top of the Himalayas and the Andes Mountains. The effect of that large mass of ice at high elevation was to roll the earth so that the north pole was about 500 miles south of Greenland. At that time, Siberia was effectively at a much lower latitude than it is today. Ie, it was warm and well-watered. The melting of the ice by the time of Christ allowed the North Pole to return to its present position, and Siberia became a very cold, desert-like climate.

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Jordan Nuttall's avatar

I have actually heard that before, but not as much detail.

Thank you Kenneth, it is fascinating, and something I must look deeper into.

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Lala Evangeline's avatar

Seraphim Rose talks about aliens in Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future and says a similar thing. While there is fraud, some of these encounters with "aliens" seem like clear demonic encounters. It's an interesting book.

There definitely seems to be an angle there where they want to convince humans of the existence of some super high technology alien race and that we need to do <<whatever false demonic religion>> in order to save the world from some impending disaster, or to ascend to a higher technological plane of being etc. At the moment it seems to be a non starter but some people for sure would be all in on this. I don't know if this is relevant but <<child hurters>> were almost always big star trek fans when star trek was still a relevant thing. Maybe a link with this kind of futuristic utopian science fiction type belief system.

One thing which bothered me with the ancient aliens stuff is how they often seem to take for granted that people in the past were inferior. There's some tacit buy-in to a progressivist evolutionary world view with this kind of outlook. Or they don't think people can do anything at all which made for a fun tiktok trend "we couldn't build the pyramids with today's tools. Today's tools:" cue into ridiculously huge mining equipment or cranes.

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Drew's avatar

This is great. How do we get you on Rogan?

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